ryan is flirting with it. but aside from rand paul and marco rubio, where are those voices in the house? if anything we're going to see very strong opposition from the republican party and if anything a latino is leading that charge. >> you know, joe, victoria you can take this. at cnbc we look at the business side of it. i want to ask more wholistic question, why are people so scared of this, a pathway to citizenship? what is the fear? >> 1986. the failure of 1986. >> border security is part of the deal in 1986 or at least not executed on. and so the fear is, i know a lot -- among a lot of rank and file republicans and joe you know this and heard this, that we have a repeat of '86. okay, fine, we give full amnesty to the 11 million, 12 million people and there is no check on border security. and then ten years, 20 years from now we have another 15, 20 million illegal -- >> all reagan's amnesty bill is encourage more illegal immigrants to jump the fence and come over here. that is a real concern as alex said i